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February 9, 2010 at 12:02 am
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Damian (Instructor)
Keymaster
I saw one of Hockheims books and saw some of his techniques in several magazines. To tell you the truth I am not really impressed with either one of them. That”s why I ordered the whole set from the Self defense Training System. I believe you follow more closely Carl Cestari’s ideas. I have a few of his videos also and the Operation Phoenix DVD. I wouldn’t waste time and money with Wagner or Hockheim.