Re: Ignorance – The Self Defense Company

Re: Ignorance

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A single street fight doesn’t prove or disprove the validity of a system. There have been great successes and tragic failures of experts of every conceived form of fighting in the world.

Next, what do you define as success survival or homicide?

If the formula Guy Studies MMA = Guy Wins Street Fight
Therefore MMA = Win Street Fights is true.

Then I offer the following.
Guy wrestles = guy wins street fight
Wrestling = wins street fights

guy plays football = gu wins street fight
Football = wins street fights

Guy Drinks Beer = Guy Wins Street Fight
There Drinks Beer = Win Street Fights

You get my point.

You could take it a step further and say anyone who ever one a street fight (an adult street fight) could come out with their own fighting system.

Enough on that. So what is a system? It consists of application, purpose, repeatability and success.

MMA
Application: Contest
Purpose: Knock out or submit opponent within specific set of rules, time and location
Repeatability: Yes
Success: Yes, with in the scope of its purpose, competition

SDTS
Application: Self Defense
Purpose: Survive, Kill or Capture by any means
Repeatability: Yes
success: Yes, 1910 shanghai, the US, wwII, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan- you can read the testimonials

Now to those guys who posted. Don’t bother. It is the debate style of a 12 year old who has a severe learning disability with a chronic chronic masturbation issue.
we also assume the story is true, it could happen, he’s no doubt a tough guy and here’s my point.

He is not them and he is not you. Sure people who know better and have been around the block choose the SDTS, but these guys posting are not professional fighters (it’s my daddy can beat up your daddy all over again).

These guys can’t BE that person so they pretend they are them on the internet. Try it, its easy. Pick a War Hero, Audie Murphy Hollywood Icon and WWII CMH winner. Now you post Audie Murhpy would have all of their hearts on a stake and their ears for necklaces.

When they come back at you tell them: (from wikipedia)
Murphy still had to “fight the system” to get overseas and into combat. His persistence paid off, and in early 1943 he was shipped out to Casablanca, Morocco as a replacement in Company B, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division.[5] Murphy saw no action in Africa, but instead participated in extensive training maneuvers along with the rest of the 3rd Division. His combat initiation finally came when he took part in the invasion of Sicily on July 10, 1943.[1][5] Shortly after arriving, Murphy was promoted to corporal[1] after killing two Italian officers as they tried to escape on horseback. He contracted malaria[2][6] while in Sicily, an illness which put him in the hospital several times during his Army years.[6]

After Sicily was secured from the Axis forces, the 3rd Division invaded the Italian mainland, landing near Salerno[1] in September 1943.[5] While leading a night patrol, Murphy and his men ran into German soldiers but fought their way out of an ambush, taking cover in a rock quarry.[1] The German command sent a squad of soldiers in, but they were stopped by intense machine-gun and rifle fire.[1] Three German soldiers were killed and several others captured.[1] As a result of his actions at Salerno, Murphy was promoted to sergeant.[1]

Murphy distinguished himself in combat on many occasions while in Italy, fighting at the Volturno River,[5] at the Anzio beachhead,[5] and in the cold, wet Italian mountains. While in Italy, his skills as a combat infantryman earned him promotions and decorations for valor.[5]

Following its participation in the Italian campaign, the 3rd Division landed in Southern France[5] on August 15, 1944 as part of Operation Anvil-Dragoon.[5] Shortly thereafter, Murphy’s best friend, Lattie Tipton (referred to as “Brandon” in Murphy’s book To Hell and Back), was killed by a German soldier in a machine gun nest who was feigning surrender.[1] Murphy went into a rage,[1] and single-handedly wiped out the German machine gun crew which had just killed his friend.[1] He then used the German machine gun and grenades to destroy several other nearby enemy positions.[1] For this act, Murphy received the Distinguished Service Cross[1] (second only to the Medal of Honor). During seven weeks of fighting in that campaign in France, Murphy’s division suffered 4,500 casualties.[5]

Just weeks later, he received two Silver Stars for further heroic actions.[1] Murphy, by now a staff sergeant and holding the position of Platoon Sergeant, was eventually awarded a battlefield commission to second lieutenant, which elevated him to the Platoon Leader position.[1] He was wounded in the hip by a sniper’s ricocheting bullet 12 days after the promotion[1] and spent ten weeks recuperating.[1] Within days of returning to his unit, and still bandaged, he became company commander (January 25, 1945), and suffered further wounds from a mortar round which killed two others nearby.

The next day, January 26 (the temperature was 14