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@J R said:
@James Goolsby said:
Amen, brother!
It’s SDTS for me all the way. In fact, the ONLY reason I even still train in anything like aikido/jujitsu is because, as a police officer, I am often required by my department to show that I at least attempted to “subdue and control” an individual before I commence to hacking and chopping (unless, of course, the fight is already on… then all bets are off!) Even then, though, I often find myself resorting to GDT and SDTS many times — for example, the ol’ Hand Yoke to the back of the neck tends to get their attention quickly.
Great post. Stay safe, my friend.James, I feel you brother. I am a police officer too and the Guardian Program has worked. My department does not approve of the control techniques in there but, I have used a few and they have worked great. Especially the hand yoke ot the back of the neck! I used that once when we had this big fight we were breaking up and the biggest mouth in the group wasn’t fighting anybody anymore but he was instigating others. I gave him the hand yoke to the back of the neck, that shut him up quick and to the crowd it looked like I was just taking him into custody and not trying to fight. I did the hand yoke during an almost riot too and it shut somebody down real quick too. Also, the bulldog neck twist worked real good too on a domestic with a guy trying to fight me. I got him down quick and without incident.
JR,
Yup… the hand yoke has pretty much become my “go to” move these days. I’ve yet to have it fail on me. I nailed a drunk with it one day when he kept putting his hands in his pockets. His eyes rolled back and I’m pretty sure that for about 10 seconds or so he was talking to dead relatives.
I know what you mean about GDT, though. My LT about shit his pants when I showed him the pen-up-the-nostril technique. My department is so afraid of getting sued that anything beyond verbal judo and they start to break out in hives. We have to fill out a Use-of-Force report for practically everything. I now keep the “good stuff” to myself, which is sad considering I’m the department’s DT Instructor. Oh, well… Chief signs the checks so I gotta give him what he wants.
BTW… the hockey hip-check from behind is quite effective as well. Nobody expects you to slam your hip into their ass so it’s pretty easy to catch them off-guard. Course, the butt of a Glock or an ASP digging in there is a little added bonus.