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I came across a couple of clips showing BJJ vs. Kenpo and BJJ vs. Hapkido. I know the quality of the clips are very bad, and this is a dojo situation and not the street, but I am curious on what the Kenpo and Hapkido instructors did wrong.
I’m currently going through module 4 and was thinking what my response would have been had this been on the street. The Hapkido guy even tried at some point to grab the groin area without success and was choked out.
I realize that this is arm chair quarterbacking and I’m certainly not interested in starting a SDTS vs BJJ thread. That’s just a waste of time, but there are several people on the street today that had some form of grappling training and you might run into in a wrong situation.
Anyway here are the clips:
The first one features the kenpo instructor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEm-SVGlJrg
This is the clip that features the hapkido instructors.
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I’ll give you a quick rundown of the Kenpo guy and go tothe hapkido guy next.
First off I just want to mention that when you stick to any martial art or ideaology without looking at the possibilities involved , (ie. How you will be attacked) you are asking for trouble and are ill preparing yourself.
Right from the start the Kenpo fighter looked to kick a moving target that was rushing towards him, when he clearly did not have the distance and timing necessary to land the kick effectively. When someone is running toward you they have momentum on their side and it is extremely difficult to land a kick on them as well you’ll be on 1 foot when they tackle you.
Then once the BJJ fighter was forcing him back the KF didn’t know how to sprawl and bring the BJJF down.
This meant they kept moving back and around until finally the KF was taken off balance.
Then KF easily gave up his back when he was trying to use pure force to take over the BJJF. The BJJF just moved back and to the side to take his back. They struggled a little but the BJJF had more experience in taking the back . The point being that the BJJF’s training was geared against a striker but the KF’s training was not geared against a grappler but against other strikers.
In order for striking to work against a grappler you have to make sure you fire from a position where your strikes have power and never let the BJJF put the pieces of his puzzle together, in other words don’t let him control the position. Working on familiarizing yourself with positions and escapes from BJJ is not a bad idea either.
Anyone with good escapes and positional skill in BJJ would be effective on the street minus the set ups , subs, etc… -
Both of these BTW are excellent examples of what can happen when someone rushes and smothers you, this is especially true if the guy is larger than you he can overwhelm you very fast if you’re not very mobile and can’t move out of the way of his power.
This is where circling and footwork is crucial.
Greco roman, and Judo are very useful here as well.In the Hapkido fight, the first guy gets clinched and then just starts flailing wildly as he gets backed up, when it happens this fast it’s easy to get overwhelmed very quickly and panic resulting in flailing strikes.
He gets taken down and mounted, then continues uselessly throwing shots in hopes of disorienting and distracting the BJJF however when you train against this kind of contact you get used to it.
It is very difficult to fight off you back when someone is that close to you.
He also uselessly moves his legs around instead of using sound escaping skills to roll his opponent or get his hips under the BJJF legs to use some leverage to get him off.These are perfect examples that it never hurts to familiarlize your self with positions and full contact.
BJJ, Judo, Wrestling and other combat sports are good for that as long as you realize their limitations as well.
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I really appreciate your replies. Here is another example clip. The reason for this posting is about 35 seconds into the match, a strangle is applied to the BJJ fighter. I noticed that the Kung Fu guy was getting his ribs hammered in order to break the hold. This brings up two questions:
First, do you feel that this is the best way to break a strangle if it’s being applied to you?
Second, if you are the one doing the strangling, is rolling to the side of the punching arm in order to pin it the best way to maintain the hold?
I know that chokes and strangles are covered later (perhaps module 12) but I was just curious about the solutions.
Here is the clip I’m talking about:
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