- This topic has 20 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 14 years, 6 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
-
I’ll make this in my usual short n sweet fashion. You know I am really getting so much out of the SDTS man I really am. I am becoming a different person full-o-shit as that sounds to ME at times when people say that about a set of videos they got.
I am paying attention to the first 3 modules most but also feeling an irresistable need to go look at the old vintage Cestari vids too. In both, neither Carl nor Damian do any high kicks whatsoever. Not like any videos I have seen like JKD ones where I have said “not too many high kicks”. No. None. Nada. Goose-egg, donut babe….not one.
Got me thinking, I don’t feel like I really NEED kicks too much at all in my arsenal. MY OWN arsenal. Not being one of them cornballs who make their newfound philosophy everyone else’s. But dig it, for the most part kicks are nothing but trouble. Simple reason, you’re on one leg. And the more time you spend on ne leg…off balance like that. Well jesus do I even have to mention it? It’s fucki stupid the way most people do it.
Even the low-line Thai-kick which is meant for a sport has it’s bozo-brigade of guys who swear by it too much. And that’s one of the more practical kicks. Damian and Carl clearly do a better low-kick to the knee.
Old Fairbairn in-step stomp kick. But even then..is it needed all THAT much? I mean shit, use your feet to maintain MAXIMUM balance and generate MAXIMUM kinetic forcen with edge of hand blows, chin-jabs, face smahes, hammerfisst etc etc and you’re fuckin the loser up 10 ways to sunday already. Most kicks out there will sooner or later become a death-trap for ya if you do too many of them.Most targets-no ALL targets above the kneecap level that most martial artisst kick at…I can easily reach and be just as effective by using my hands, I have found. And yes, that inculudes the groin.
Knees are different, but knees you can do when you’re grabbing hold of the guy so you have less chance of losing balance. And of course the good old shin kick IS a great opener. No question. But for the most part, kicks? I don’t need ’em.
-
-
-
I look at kicks as something you do when you’ve already taken control of their balance. I like elbows and forearm blows inside at kicking range. More of a weapon of opportunity than a lead, but the shin kick can serve that purpose. The old “reverse shin/knee stop kick”, Huh? works good as a lead. Samee-same. Good post JKDGuy. Semper Fi.
-
-
No…I believe an axe kick is similar to a crescent lick except that it comes straight down on it’s target after reaching the apex of it’s arc. It’s mostly used as a high kick with the collar bone being it’s typical target. Not a really a movement you want to do in self defense unless they are on the ground. It is useful in ground fighting since It strikes with the heel. The reverse shin/knee stop kick is essentially an inside edge of boot kick. Lee liked to use it to intercept kicks and a charge. It’s very effective as a stomp to the inside or outside of the knee. Semper Fi.
-
-
-
Kicks are overrated.
Other than in an opening gambit (kicking someone from a distance before you follow with your hands) and finishing them on the ground (bronco kick and stomp style or kneeing an injured enemy when he’s bent over), there is nothing else your instincts will let you do.
The reason is simple: when you’re in the heat of the battle you will do all you can to keep your balance while you’re taking ground, grappling, chasing the guy, running away, keeping your footing on the terrain. In order to kick your base foot (the one one the ground) must remain stable.
That’s why the stomping driving footwork in the SDTS is what it is. When you’re in close, smashing and instep or kneeing a thigh all adds to unbalancing the enemy so you can do worse with your upper body.
Kicks are not cornerstone methods of attack. They are best used when you have knocked that SOB to the ground. Then give ’em the old “Good Fellas” treatment.
The SDTS gives you the tactics and a variety of core technique, through training you decide what works best for you. Don’t expect to have to master every technique, just a handful is really all you need. The reason there are a variety is because as a system, it’s designed to teach everybody.
Even in Judo and wrestling there are thousands of techniques yet only about 5 is all you will ever need.
-
-
-
-
-
-
My most favorite kick besides the shin kick is one Cestari demonstrated in his advanced techniques serires. Standing 90 degrees at your opponent, Carl demonstrated by SIMULTANEOUSLY turning with his left hip towards the right and sharply kicking out his left foot without telegraphing and smashing the guys knee with the heel of the boot! Damn. I tried it on a tree, the same way Carl demonstrated and I could feel the power. No man will stand against that. Fairbairn referred to it was the low boot kick, I think
-
That’s one of my favorites as well. When I started Martial Arts it was in ’73 at the height of the Bruce Lee craze. I kick boxed. We had some Tae Kwon Do guys and some boxers so that’s what we did. I was never much interested in TKD but I liked the licks. When the Tao Of Jeet Kune Do came out we used that as a training manual. That’s were I picked up the reverse shin/knee stop kick. I love that kick. I still refer to the Tao of JKD at least once a week. There is a lot of stuff in JKD that I don’t believe lends itself to self defense at all but the core training principles are sound, in my opinion. I think Mr Lee was too heavily influenced by combat sports such as modern boxing, sport fencing and several others for JKD to be a combat system. It wouldn’t take much to turn it into a real self defense system, though. Any thoughts on this?? Anyone? I’m not trying to step on any toes, it’s just my opinion.
-
to be honest, i dont know shit about TKD or JKD. No need to when ya got Defendu! But the low boot kick, shin kick and instep is all I know and really all ya need to wreck someones balance. JKD TKD seem too complicated to learn and take too much time. it’s rediculous. Besides, Defendu and the LINE combative system, are there any other effective bone crushing H2H combat systems out there. Im not really impressed with Krav maga.
-
Well, there’s ” Hoch ” Hochiem. I think he’s still doing things. He’s similar to Kelly McCann although he leans heavily to Asian martial arts. I think he does quite a bit of law enforcement training. He has some interesting ideas about edged weapon ground fighting. I’ve never seen any of it. You’re right, though. TKD is bullshit and JKD is, while better than most combat sports, it’s still in my mind a sport. Most systems loose it in three ways. Too technical to be effective in a life or death fight due to the survival stress response, unrealistic training and just too damn complicated. When I was hard after Aiki-Jujutsu, and I still train in it much the same as Damian in Judo, I had discovered Carl Cestari. I read his articles on gutterfighting and started to apply them in my training. The difference amazed me.
In Oikiru Ryu we would strike once or twice and then go into some kind of throw, takedown or armbar. We spent a lot of time on the ground but the throws and joint manipulations were much like Aikido. We spared full contact and I can tell you it’s a hell of a lot easier the put someone on the ground after hitting them 5 or 6 times than it is 1 or 2. I do have quite a bit of Aiki influence on how I enter but you are correct. In my mind Defendu is king. I do still train with the Japanese short staff ( Jo ) and the sword. They’re fun to work with. The Tanto also. I work with each maybe once a month or a little less.
Most of the other people training out there are sports disguised as self defense. Damian is the only guy doing anything with Defendu, at least in the U.S. There’s an organization in the U.K.
I rambled on too damn much. Time to hit the rack. Good night. Semper Fi.
-
I heard that traditional karate from Okinawa was a self defense system, literally designed to wreck people, then it became watered down with PC rules and bullshit. Damn westerners changing shit. Bruce Lee is only considered my many to be the best fighter that’s because he had the best combat SPORT system on screen! My opinion. I saw Enter the Dragon last night for the first time lmao. Made in 73. it did look impressive I’ll admit, what wasnt impressive were his monkey noises and facial expressions, too much flash. In the heat of battle, you’ll only know how to react, all fine motor movements and combos go out the window.
-
-
-
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
