Steven Seagal – The Self Defense Company

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    • #10441
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      [i:28bnzigc]How does the action star and Aikido master handle real life police work?[/i:28bnzigc]
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVaC-IEUHcg

      I will admit right off I

    • #11849

      Steven Seagal now looks kinda goofy cause he’s older and certainly fatter,. Im a hella Jean-Claude-Vandamme fan

    • #11851

      Check out Van Damme’s movie JCVD it’s easily one of the best film’s he’s ever done.

    • #11854

      What I don’t understand is why Van Damme, who is about 50, is attempting to step in the ring with a guy about 20 years his junior sometime this March. I’m not sure what he’s trying to prove, but I hope he doesn’t get hurt trying to do it.

    • #11857

      All Vandamme has is his reputation

    • #11858

      Exactly, I’m not a huge fan of his and at one point I couldnt stand him. What really bothers me is that he always tried to pass himself off as a fighter and he clearly never was.

      But this movie really puts him in a very human place and also shows his best acting ever.
      Yeah, I know, he’s playing himself but he still does a great job a portraying himself in a very honest light.

      Overall he has done some decent movies, Bloodsport, (as stupid as it was, was entertaining.) Also Timecop was good as well as Universal Soldier, these movies were entertaining and that’s it.
      I don’t know what he’s thinking getting in the ring, it could just be a publicity stunt or maybe he really wants to give it an honest go, either way I doubt he’ll do very well.

    • #11859

      Either way, you can admire someone

    • #11867

      Jean Claude VD did fight in semi-contact and full contact sabaki style tournaments when he was 18.

      His career really flagged when Chuck Zito knocked him out at SCORES gentleman’s club.

      Back ground, Chuck heard JCVD talked some smack about him. What was said was not important. Chuck knew JCVD and even body guarded for him once or twice. Chuck walked over the JCVD who was sitting down, eating a steak. when chuck approached him, JCVD got up and took off his glasses, Chuck knocked him out with a right cross.

      Fight over.

      After that JCVD’s movie career died.

      Hey, he lost a street fight, if he had hit Chuck first, it probably would have gone the other way, but he didn’t. It just is a hell of a coincidence that the fight preceded the career crash.

      JCVD getting into the ring a 50, GOD bless him and good luck. I’m sure there’s a combination of publicity and personal challenge.

      Both of these guys were icons and as a young martial artists, influenced me until 1989. Now I just like the entertainment value of it all.

      Steven Segal’s best work was “COCK PUNCHER”. Check out the ONION movie.

    • #11885

      The latest details I can find out about the up coming Van Damme fight is that his opponent will be Somluck Kamsing (age 37) in a Thai Boxing match. One thing I found out about this fight is that no elbow strikes will be allowed and that the K1 event will be held in Macau, China.

      There was a rumor that the event may be pushed back to October 2010, but we’ll have to wait and see.

      I do wish Van Damme the best of luck and hope he can pull this off.

      This does bring up a question concerning fighting and defense at an older age…

      I just turned 47 and currently training with the SDTS. There is some thinking out in the world that while an older fighter may not have the stamina of a 20 year old, the impact of strikes delivered by an older fighter tend to be somewhat harder that from a younger fighter. Is that just another urban myth?

    • #11893

      I remember Chuck Zito on Howard Stern many years ago saying that it was more of a hard slap thaan a punch and JCVD just went down.

      I don’t know how true that is though, he might’ve just been joking.

      As to the thing about older people hitting harder, sounds like a myth to me.

      Power in strikes always depends on fast twitch muscle fiber, wether someone is young or old it really depends on their muscles and movement.

    • #11895

      The rumor comes from the boxers saying “The punch is the last thing to go”.
      And this is absolutely TRUE.

      That doesn’t mean you will hit harder than a younger man, you may or may not. What it means is that the last skill to leave your body is your ability to strike.

      1. Endurance
      2. Legs
      3. Mind
      4. Punch

      This is why Foreman could still fight younger guys while in his 50’s.

      In a sporting match, all things being equal, you have to go with the younger fighter. I don’t know how hard JCVD hits. If he can hit hard, he always has a punchers chance. Unless his opponent is a tomato can, then it’s basically fixed.

    • #11969

      I was reading up on the origins and use of the edge of hand blow. Did you know in Korean Martial Arts, TKD the edge of hand blow is done by crossing the thumb inwards, overlapping in across the palm so the top of your thumb touches the bottom of your pinkie. Can it also be done like that to strike with the EOH? Just curious. Never heard of it being done that way before.

    • #11970

      Anytime you manipulate the fingers it’s a finite motor skill. Touching the thumb across to the pinkie is a finite motor skill. So, no good.

      OR are your talking about a ridge hand where you strike with the thumb side of the hand? We cover this in module 2 of the SDTS where you hit with the index finger knuckle and the thumb knuckle (must be conditioned a bit though).

    • #11971

      Really? I did not know you could strike with the thumb/index knuckle. Would that be effective though and how would you condition that bone!

    • #11972

      Also. I was reading up on Karate. I didn’t know it originated in Okinawa and was originally a purely self-defense system. But bring the most hardcore system to the west, and douchebags will water it down to PC standards for profit. S.O.B.s! They even have the “Tegatana” in REAL Karate!

    • #11973

      Conditioning: module 6 of the SDTS

      Karate was purely a killing art. No kids. That was the attitude. It was not without its exaggeration and false claims, but it was spartan like in it’s training methods that only got WORSE when it came to the US.

      Then in the late 70’s and early 80’s TKD came along and changed the whole model.

    • #11974

      Well I suppose if I want to learn REAL Karate, I’d have to go to Okinawa. Ima fan of the Japs anyway. Especially their military history.

    • #11978

      Mas Oyama’s Kyokushin Karate.

      In competition, they don’t punch in the head, but it’s the best, most consistent around.

      https://www.kyokushinkarate.com/

    • #11980

      Because Karate originally was a killing art, I don’t think they competed in competition. This has obviously been westernized. I hate competition. It gives everyone a false sense of what really works

    • #11981

      Take module 6 of the SDTS
      Build a makiwara
      Practice reverse punch and front kick

      welcome to traditional karate.

    • #11982

      isn’t a front kick like a front snap kick? I’ll just direct it towards the opponents knee! No need for complicated shit

    • #11983

      There are a variety of front kicks, but didn’t you see it in module 1?

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