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Everyone has been burned. This is the latest BS from TRS direct
If you go here and purchase this video…have a sense of humor.
https://www.trsdirect.com/AMS-300.htmBe advised EVERYTHING from the name “Jack Stone” to the MASK (I used to know a guy who wore a mask).
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I’m talking about Special Forces bad-ass Jack Stone. I call him the
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This Joker reminds me of Capt. Chris who used to be Lt. X. Have to say though he does entertain me with his stories that he cooks up surrounding his “warehouse” have to say he is pretty creative. I cant wait for his next email with the new “mistake” that his “employees” continue to make. lol.
It just shows a lack of character. Just run a special dude why try to lie to me? Stores run specials all the time. But I do get a new story every once in a while I guess thats cool. But hey its not my business but if my DVD wasnt moving at $ 197 but moved well at $ 97 …guess what? I would just lower the price to $97 and reap the rewards. But hey thats just me. What do I know?
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The technique behind the BS is this…you don’t want to piss off your customer base (the sorry SOB’s who purchased what ever your selling at full price).
Specials and sales in this type of business lead to quick turn over. At the SDC we focus on getting people in for the long hall. It takes longer, but over time it creates stability and a real brand.
In the short term, warehouse floods and no barcodes don’t hold a customer. Because the customer is buying based on price not product.
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Damian Ross, I just wanted to take this time to say: I have enough of your material now so..thank you for not appearing in any of it clad in a ridiculous looking balaklava mask. Thank you for not spending 15 minutes or ANY amount of time at all making me look at scibble-scrabble on a chalk board talking about left-brain-right-brain stuff which I am absolutely certain is for real and has merit in learning to fight and in combat itself. But is NOT something the student needs to know about when learning because the teacher can simply work that knowledge into the cirriculum.
Thank you for presenting simple,pragmatic, to-the-point and EFFECTIVE material…..WITHOUT presenting questionable material such as “by-the-numbers” meaning seeing the attackers arms as numbers.( Sorry-I did not fare so well in college, I have had learning disabilities most of my life, so…I am too dumb to grasp such super-cerbebrial acedemia).
Thank you also not also sending me sideline e-mails that hint you can not just teach one how to ifght, but also make a million dollars.
And finally…gee..I guess thanks for not FIRST presenting yourself with the military rank of Capt, which is so “sensitive” that you HAD TO WEAR a mask. Then re-doing your series sans the mask..but now calling yourself
Lt….or was that the other way around? Hmm….I forget.
At any rate, thanks for all that. Helpful
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Don’t Believe the Hype!
I have had the privilege of training with some top notch US SOF soldiers in hand to hand combat. While in Iraq in 2005, I was fortunate enough to receive instruction from one of the most talented martial artist I have ever met. His name is Mike Foley LTC USA (Ret). https://h2hctc.com/ You can google him and find out his list of accomplishments or visit his website. He wears no mask, list no pseudo names, rather he is very humble, very kind and frank. Furthermore, he lists all of his teachers and their lineage. This man has lived and applied his art in a variety of environments. I asked Mike, point blank where he learned what he learned. His response: “No special S.O.F. “black ops” schools, rather the Army paid for him to train with civilians and those who where true master’s in their arts”. That was just part of his job, bottom line.
The point is, there are no military “ninja schools” and anyone who has to hide their identity under a mask and false name is a fake and a liar.
Look, I am tired of the Capt Crunch, Chris Pizzio’s and now this other quack out there who takes a Matt Furey course on marketing, hires a publicity agency to write bogus material with unverifiable information, steals other people’s material, receives a little training, then trumps up some B.S. record of wins/competitions, military records whatever. They do it to make a quick buck off those who are gullable.
In my 22 years of military service, both active/reserve, I have worked hard in my roles as an infantry officer, reconnaissance Marine and intelligence officer. I have sacrificed a great deal for my country because I felt it has been my duty! So when I see a fraud, I will expose it and not have the honor of my fellow service members and their sacrifices marginalized by those who inflate their own self-image in order to con others. -
This is exactly the case and point as well as the TOUGHEST hurdle for any legitimate person in this business to overcome.
Its the quick and the easy path. Most guys who know the difference and see the BS. The problem is the majority of people don’t know the difference. We have to compete with “prison systems” and “illegal killing methods” and other repackaged hoarse- sh#t.
An overwhelming majority of people actually believe (or more to the point want to believe) such things and places exist. The toughest challenge so far has been to show people- this is what really works, this is where it came from and these are the people using it RIGHT NOW!
It’s still an uphill battle, but there’s enough room under the sun for everyone.
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poeseldc wrote:Don’t Believe the Hype!
I have had the privilege of training with some top notch US SOF soldiers in hand to hand combat. While in Iraq in 2005, I was fortunate enough to receive instruction from one of the most talented martial artist I have ever met. His name is Mike Foley LTC USA (Ret). https://h2hctc.com/ You can google him and find out his list of accomplishments or visit his website. He wears no mask, list no pseudo names, rather he is very humble, very kind and frank. Furthermore, he lists all of his teachers and their lineage. This man has lived and applied his art in a variety of environments. I asked Mike, point blank where he learned what he learned. His response: “No special S.O.F. “black ops” schools, rather the Army paid for him to train with civilians and those who where true master’s in their arts”. That was just part of his job, bottom line.
The point is, there are no military “ninja schools” and anyone who has to hide their identity under a mask and false name is a fake and a liar.
Look, I am tired of the Capt Crunch, Chris Pizzio’s and now this other quack out there who takes a Matt Furey course on marketing, hires a publicity agency to write bogus material with unverifiable information, steals other people’s material, receives a little training, then trumps up some B.S. record of wins/competitions, military records whatever. They do it to make a quick buck off those who are gullable.
In my 22 years of military service, both active/reserve, I have worked hard in my roles as an infantry officer, reconnaissance Marine and intelligence officer. I have sacrificed a great deal for my country because I felt it has been my duty! So when I see a fraud, I will expose it and not have the honor of my fellow service members and their sacrifices marginalized by those who inflate their own self-image in order to con others.[/quote:2powktij]Ya know on top of all capt. Crunches BS Marketing and lies . He proudly proclaims himself a bully and says he owes it all to Close Combat training. The two stories that comes to mind and I am sure they are indeed stories. I recieved these stories via email to try to get me to buy his shit. The one is that he went out to dinner with his family and apparently he has raised some brats . And the one child is causeing a huge commotion that gets the attention of a man near by and the good Captain brags that he intimidated this guy whom was about to call him out on being a rude bastard. If ya cant keep your kid under control then remove them so the other customers can eat in peace! But no he brags about being a bully instead. And tries to say he owes it all to knowing close combat.lmao.
The other is that he was in “hollywood” and he was basicly calling everyone weak for being civil and professional and that he intimidated them.lol Including hollywood body guards.lol
I have worked security and done escort etc. Ya are paid to be friendly, kind and professional. Security professionals are not like in the movies. Big huge scared and tatoo freaks or something. Nah we genrally look good in a suit and am able to blend into the close background until we are needed.
This guy is jack ass all the way through. And though I didnt know the man. I do have his material and have done my research on the man and got a sense of the man. I have a feeling Mr. Cestari is in heaven wishing he could put his foot up Captain Crunches ass!
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1% on the money.
When I did security at the Grammy’s and Fox news (the agency that I was with had a contract with them). We did everything from protecting camera equipment to the talent.
Training people is all about professionalism and liability. The biggest misconception is that you have some special rights and authority because you’re wearing a nice suit. The problem is that you are subject to the same use of force laws that govern everyone else.
You’re also a liability if you decide to bust heads at the drop of a dime. People with hot heads don’t last long in that business.
Him, TRS, Furey and a littany of others have decided to go completely OVER the moon and suspend reality. There comes a point when you stop bending the truth to get someones attention and abandoning the truth the get someone’s wallet.
Hey, you CAN’T please everybody all of the time, so in defense to anyone who ever tried to open a business, I feel your pain. But when the overwhelming majority of press revolves around your not so above board business practices…I can speak from experience…LESSON LEARNED.
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In a few weeks we are going to launch http://www.myselfdefenseresource.com
This will be a content rich site that will have EVERYTHING self defense, martial arts, military and law enforcement, training and tactics. We will have FBI file reports, CIA training Manuals, full books on line. You’ll be able to find support for assault victims, crime prevention, burglary prevention.
The past few months our researcher (both of them) have been scouring the globe for the correct content.
All of this will be available to you for the low, low price of…FREE.
Yes, what others are giving away as bonuses and CHARGING FOR, we will be giving away for free. Plus, if you feel lie donating to the cause, no problem. You can submit content.Why are we doing this? Well first, its a great way to promote he SDC is a PAY IT FORWARD type of Manner. We will be the resource for all information regarding this subject matter. Second, we will level the playing field. Before you buy something, check our archives. The new joomlah program makes it EASY.
Lastly, you should not have to pay for something you can get for FREE. Part of what is wrong with this business is that these NOT SO ethical people take public domain content (copyright free content). And build a business around it. The focus on:
The Sales letter- Long copy, story, problem-agitate-solve format.
The offer- Get $15,787 worth of stuff for FREE
The close/take away- ACT now and we’ll throw in X,Y,Z but please act before midnight tonight because (SOMETHING OR SOMEONE will stop me or I only have X amount left).With the traffic we are starting to generate, it will only be a matter of time until those people will have to think of something else to do OR sell. I know for one thing we come up with, they will come up with 10 more, but charging you for things you can get for free is about to stop.
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The only item I saw was on Bullshido and it was posted by Hockeim. These are two “sources” I have had the displeasure of dealing with.
Bullshido has a post about that is false and not researched.
Hockeim’s forum has more posts about me. When I tried to register under my own name, I wasn’t confirmed. I literally had to register under another name to ask him a question about a video he saw of me.
When he said he didn’t actually SEE the video, he only HEARD about it from some guys in Houston, TX. I made the statement to the effect of “How can you make a statement of fact when you never even saw the video?”
Then they finally looked up my IP address and found it was me. So what did he do? He banned me from the forum. Hell, he wouldn’t even take me to task. Oh well.
Both sources are simply gossip. If I were Jim Wagner, I wouldn’t give a shit about Hockiem or whoever said about me.
Bullshido is all about spreading gossip, Hockeim is trying to further his own product. Hey, nothing would suit me better if Wagner was a fake, but I don’t have the time or the inclination. It would appear the Hockeim is not doing that well, if he were, he wouldn’t waste his time with negative selling.
At the end of the day you have to ask yourself, is the product any good?
Damian
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I saw one of Hockheims books and saw some of his techniques in several magazines. To tell you the truth I am not really impressed with either one of them. That”s why I ordered the whole set from the Self defense Training System. I believe you follow more closely Carl Cestari’s ideas. I have a few of his videos also and the Operation Phoenix DVD. I wouldn’t waste time and money with Wagner or Hockheim.
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It looks like Hockiem does Filipino Martial Arts. This is a very common. Self defense experts teaching martial arts.
It works like this:
Instructor is a police officer or soldier who has an interest is martial arts. He becomes known around the department as “the martial arts guy.”When the department needs a defensive tactics instructor, this guy is tapped because he s into that stuff.
Next the guy is given course guidelines written by pencil pushers and politicians or he’s left to his own devices.
Either way you get a guy with the right credentials but the wrong program (have you seen Steve Segal Lawman yet?)
Hockeim does Filipino Martial Arts
Tim Larkin Does Hapkido
I don’t know what Wagner does though I did see images of him hitting a guy who was wearing full battle gear and a helmet with a bare fist. I’m not big on taking 30 second videos and images in black belt out of context but this shows a lack of practical experience. There is always a risk of damaging your hand, but on a man with full gear you are going to bust your knuckles and dislocate your thumbs. So much for being able to fire your weapon.Damian
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I like the Filipino styles and study them. I saw very little evidence of them in that one book though. I am always very impressed when I see Wagner in full combat gear all the time. The man is always ready for war. As for Seagal. I’ve seen the show and I like it but I wouldn’t want him to teach me anything. I’ve had several guys try to show me aikido and while I respect the art when the situation is right, they could not use it against me. I always hit them before they could grab me and do something fancy. One actually told me he couldn’t show me anything if I didn’t let him grab my arm.
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JKD guy, this is what’s wrong with this business. You don’t need to put qualifications and certifications out there. Most people don’t care.
I knew a guy who shall remain ABSOLUTELY NAMELESS at this time who was selling $100,000 per month in self defense videos while only having a green belt in judo.
NO SHIT.
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Aikido wasn’t meant for self defense…
After WWII Japan was decimated. The no-surrender, Bushido attitude of the Japanese military had taken it’s toll on her citizens. Bushido was and always will be a integral part of their culture. So after the war, the need for continuing those traditions and ideals were continued (but not before allied forces forbade all military type training, martial arts included).
Even the Kodokan (center for judo) was closed. But once practice of martial arts was allowed, three major forms for public practice emerged. Kyokushin Karate, Judo and Aikido. Sumo was not included since it is not widely available to the public.
Kyokushin was for the diehards who still had the NO SURRENDER spirit. Aikido was for the people who had enough of the war and wanted to live peaceful lives and demonstrate the principles of their culture through non-violent ways and then there was Judo, that sat in the middle of the two.
Oyama (karate), Kano (judo) and Ueshiba (aikido) were viewed as the three pillars of Japan.
Of course this doesn’t explain why the fundamentalist group The Black Dragon Society allegedly met at Ueshiba’s dojo. I’m still working on that one.
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I’ve heard that Larkin’s stuff is good, but one thing that left a really bad taste in my mouth was that early on he tried to pass himself off as a former SEAL and was busted on a website by former SEALS who research anyone claiming to have been one.
He then completely removed all that from his marketing.His stuff may be good but I choose to stay away from anyone who is that deceptive and exploitative in their marketing.
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I pretty much feel the EXACT same way man. Bought some of his suff, sure. Trained in it and glad I did. Got some pretty good things out of it. As I did with much of the JKD I studied. But, support him any further? Nah. No thanks.
Lying about being a SEAL ain’t cool. By far the worst is Lew Hicks of the SAFTA system. But I hear he went to jail. But the one I really can’t stand? Bill Wolfe of Int’l Defendo Federation. The guy states that he studied under one of the gradaddys of American WWII Combatives and therefore he has more of a lineage-connection to that stuff than anyone.
What bullshit. W.E. Fairbairn and Rex Applegate did’nt have or start some lineage like traditional martial arts do. They taught it to men who needed it. And besides, Wolfe also says that by itself WWII CQB was outdated, and he felt it was “his job” to update it by mixing it with Hapkido. But you know whats missing in al the videos of his? The chin-jab! LOL!
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You are on the money. But in regards to Larkin, to the best of my knowledge, he never claimed to be a SEAL, but he did go to BUDS and I don’t when or why he rung the bell.
The Bill Wolfe thing is funny. Having you’re grand dad share a cup of coffee with someone doesn’t mean shit. It’s what you can do and the quality of your program that matters, period.
I have taught a variety of people from competitive athletes, military, law enforcement, executives, construction workers to house wives and husbands and one things for sure, some people can get it right away, some people take a little longer and others well…not so much.
The difference with this stuff is that it’s so simple, that even if you suck, you have something. Like pizza and sex, when it’s good it’s really good and when its bad…it’s still pretty good.
People try to put the bullshit martial arts mind set to defensive tactics training. The belief is that the longer you put it, the better you are. Well that’s all relative. You may be better than when you started, but compared to the real world, you could still suck.
Qualifications, training and experience matter a lot, but its also your ability to communicate those ideas and for teaching purposes, put them in a format that can be universally understood.
At the end of the day, it’s results that matter. When your face is pressed against the hood of a car, do you think that guy doing the pressing gives a damn what belt or how long you’ve been studying?
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Absolutely JKDGuy and thanks Damien, I think it’s important for any program to also instill some critical thinking skills into the people learning it to help them apply what they are learning.
Just to clarify, when I first heard of Tim Larkin some years ago, it was through Matt Furey’s emails.
Larkin had attended a marketing seminar by Furey and he was marketing some of those who attended the seminar.Back then I absolutely remember Larkin stating in his emails and on his site that he was a former Navy Seal and instructed, I don’t remember clearly but I think it was in Diving or intelligence, that I can’t clearly remember. But he clearly did state that he was a former Seal and was discharged due to a training accident.
A while later while surfing the net, I stumbled upon authentiseal.com , this site was then run by 2 former Seals who outed imposters claiming to be former Seals.
This is where he was busted. This site is no longer run by those two guys but is used by the Seals to reach each other.
This is from their site:
[i:i1jw4wjj]”In years past the CyberSEALs organization was involved in providing the public with a service – performed by a small group of former Navy SEALs using the name AuthentiSEALs – which offered verification or denial of credentials made by men who claimed they were current/former members of the US Navy Underwater Demolition Teams or SEAL Teams. Associated with that activity the CyberSEALs maintained an online roster called the WALL OF SHAME listing men who had been publicly exposed as SEAL IMPOSTERS.”[/i:i1jw4wjj]
[i:i1jw4wjj]”The CyberSEALs organization has undergone a significant change of both personnel and mission; it is now primarily engaged in providing members of the Naval Special Warfare community with a private, secure communications link to other SEALs. This web site comprises a portion of that effort, and also serves as an informational site for the general public regarding the US Navy SEALs and the predecessor units upon which they were based.”[/i:i1jw4wjj]Now Larkin’s site states that he was trying out for the Seals and got injured which disqualified him from ever becoming a Seal.
If this is true why not just come out and say that in the first place.
The fact that he would embelish this to that point seriously brings his credibility into question.I think it’s disrespectful to the Seals to misrepresent himself this way.
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It IS disrespectful to SEALs, Delta, USMC Recon et all The Machine. No question about it! It is even offensive to some Nam vets I knew who were no more than regular Army infantry; but will tell you in many instances there lives were saved due to the men who had what ittook to be in the Special Operations comminity.
Now, keep in mind it was Jerry Peterson’s idea to have Tim Larkin “embelish” (coughliecoughcogh) about being a BUDs graduate and a SEAL. It was marketing-ploi writ large, and Jerry wanted it done so that it could be convincing that SEALs “approve of the SCARS ” system.
Tim stuck with it because it sold in the past. I do not know anything of Tim going to one of Matt Furey’s marketing seminars, but I would not doubt it if he did. Just that Tim was lying about being a SEAL long before that-and reliable sources I know tell me Jerry wanted Tim to say he was a SEAL. Always “ex-SEAL” is what I heard. The thing is, lying about military background is apparently something Jerry Peterson never had a problem doing. It seems that what he claims to have done in Viet Nam does not check out in those who looked at his Army record.
Jerry’s original teacher is Jim Halsley, an instructor of San Soo Kung Fu. That is where and how Jerry Peterson learned most of the stuff he teaches in the SCARS system. The rest from what I know is Wally Jay’s Small Circle Ju-Jitsu/ You know? I would not think less of Jerry is he were to admit that he learned much of hs principles from Wally Jay. Some of what Wally has taught is good stuff to know. The principle of making small circles is the best way to break a guy’s fingers. But Jerry wanted it to look like SCARS did not come from any martial art, but his studies into the “science” of combat. Which makes me think not much of himat all.
By the way, Tim Larkin ended up going to a group of guys based in Southern California; some martial arts guys who were forever searching for the “truth” in fighting. Smart guys, guys who were serious and not looking to simply make bucks off of people. Well Tim went to these guys and they used his SCARS background as a way of making themselves credible. But if there is any good stuff about TFT, as I understand it it is because of these guys. Tim is a figurehead basically.
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It’s all who you know…
Training Seals, Delta and any other organization comes down to who you who you know. These units are always bringing in people from the private sector to pick their brains. We regularly receive requests.I have family members (much younger and crazier than myself) who are former Seals gone contractor. They brought my brother down to Florida for a Kettle Bell seminar.
Chances are if you have a martial arts school around a base you will have trained dozens of these types.
It’s still great to do your part, but no one is putting a bag over your head and taking you to a top secret location.
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Well said guys, thanks JKDGuy, your post concerning Larkin makes alot of sense.
Damien, you are right on about the military hiring contractors to train them.
I myself trained for years directly under someone who regularly to this day led special training for military groups.As well I had this discussed this with a former-Army friend of mine who said that they regularly brought in martial arts contractors to train with.
It’s just funny how some people try to make it sound so secretive for marketing and add to the mystique of their techniques.
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